Prisoners allowed the vote.

[Jim Brady]

Heres a little one for debate.SHOULD PRISONERS BE ALLOWED THE VOTE.I cannot understand the governments stance on this as far as I am concerned the government should just say "as from tomorrow all guests of Her Majesty will be allowed to vote,end of!!How many of them would vote?how many of them have the intelligence to vote?how many of them would be bothered to vote?how many of them are interested in voting?We cant even get the populace on the outside to vote so what is the big deal in allowing those that are bannged up to vote.This argument will bounce backwards and forwards to Brussels cost millions of pounds and the worst part is we will have thousands of claims going in from those inside.What is the problem in saying all those inside have a right to vote that would be the end of it.Their Human Rights would not've been infringed and the claims of compensation would be nullified.As it happens this has now got to go to all kinds of committees costing countless millions but all we need to do is say yes you can have the vote and the problem will go away.If there is a chance of compensation for infringing someones Human Rights and Brussells say that we must comply with this then the floodgates will be open for many claimants.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Captain Kong]

The Human Rights Lawyers are all on Stand By.
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First and foremost the problem is we have no Democracy in the UK.
We Vote for a Govenment to Run this country the way we want it run.
For the people, by the people.
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Then Johnny Foreigner wants to over rule the Government that we elected to rule.
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I dont care if Prisoners get the vote or not, BUT I do not want some bunch of foreigners telling us if we dont then it will cost the tax payers of this once great nation Billions of Pounds.
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Those europeans who want to over ride everything our Government decides have all forgotten that it was us, the Commonwealth and USA that gave them freedom in WW2 and WW1. Now they are acting as the Great Dictator and supressing our freedoms.
Give them the Vote, then give them Conjugals, then give them home leave every week. or better still let them loose into the street then the Cons with have total freedom, Then europe will think of something else to take from us along with the money they take off us.
I HATE eUROPE AND ALL IT STANDS FOR.
I just want Democracy.
Cheers
Brian

[alf corbyn]

hi brian. as the tories don't want a referendum on getting out of europe and like you i detest all the money we give them, and the way they constantly keep bringing in more asinine rules and regs. why don't we have our own referendum on this site, then send the results to No 10

[Tony Morcom]

There was an interesting debate on this very subject last night on Question Time. What was said made a lot of sense to me anyhow. There was also a lively debate on Europe as well with the inevitable conclusion that Britain will not be leaving the EU anytime soon. Love it or hate it there are some very compelling reasons to stay { and that wasn't said to ruffle any feathers before the flack starts }.

[Captain Kong]

These convicts who want their Human Rights, so they can vote,
Did they consider the Human Rights of their Victims?
Not one Politician has mentioned that.
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Yesterday I saw the devestation of my next door neighbours house. The house was completely wrecked from top to bottom and more than £2,000 of gear stolen, and a couple of thousand pounds of Damage. the 12 year old girl arrived home from school first and straight into the arms of two men who were robbing the place. She was histerical, I got there in less than a minute of hearing screams they both legged it across the field and through the woods with back packs and bags.
The Police questioned two men but they denied it and so they said they cannot do anything.
If they had been convicted then they would have been shouting for their Human Rights to vote.
Cheers
Brian.

[John Pruden]

hi brian. as the tories don't want a referendum on getting out of europe and like you i detest all the money we give them, and the way they constantly keep bringing in more asinine rules and regs. why don't we have our own referendum on this site, then send the results to No 10

alf put me down as no1 to get out.

[Captain Kong]

>From The Queen's Royal Lancers Website:

Goodbye to my England, So long my old friend
Your days are numbered, being brought to an end
To be Scottish, Irish or Welsh that's fine
But don't say you're English, that's way out of line.

The French and the Germans may call themselves such
So may Norwegians, the Swedes and the Dutch
You can say you are Russian or maybe a Dane
But don't say you're English ever again.

At Broadcasting House the word is taboo
In Brussels it's scrapped, in Parliament too
Even schools are affected, staff do as they're told
They must not teach children about England of old.

Writers like Shakespeare, Milton and Shaw
The pupils don't learn about them anymore
How about Agincourt, Hastings , Arnhem or Mons ?
When England lost hosts of her very brave sons.

We are not Europeans, how can we be?
Europe is miles away over the sea
We're the English from England, let's all be proud
Stand up and be counted - Shout it out loud !

Let's tell our Government and Brussels too
We're proud of our heritage and the Red, White and Blue
Fly the flag of Saint George or the Union Jack
Let the world know - WE WANT OUR ENGLAND BACK !!!!

Anon,

think about it.
Brian.

[John Albert Evans]

alf put me down as no1 to get out.

John,
What an interesting suggestion.
I for one would vote for us to leave the EU.
Lets see what the rest of the lads feel like about it in a sort of rough straw poll.

John Albert Evans.

[Jim Brady]

I dont know what constituancy that they would be allowed to cast their votes,would it be their home ward?Given that the amount of people in gaol is some 80.000 what affect would this have on the outcome of a General Election.Thousands of criminals may be in line for compensation after MP's were yesterday given the go ahead to ignore a European court ruling handing prisoners the vote.I have to laugh at Chris Graylings statement"Parliament has the final say on our laws not the European Court of Human Rights" if only that was true!!!As i said,prisoners are not interested in having a vote but if there is any money going for denying them this then it will be get in the queue.The government are now looking at blocking prisoners from getting legal aid to fight their case.I cannot understand why they just dont say you can have the vote and I'm sure the problem would go away saving millions of pounds.
Regards.
Jim.B.

[Rodney Mills]

Captain, my like button is on the "fritz". Small nit-picking comment to The Queens Own Lancers...G.B. Shaw was Irish, he was born in Dublin in 1856. I Enjoyed the poem though.

Cheers, Rodney