Think the mate on the larger vessel was a bit slow. Should of passed him a paint brush and asked him to touch up on his way down the side. Cheers John Sabourn
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Think the mate on the larger vessel was a bit slow. Should of passed him a paint brush and asked him to touch up on his way down the side. Cheers John Sabourn
Clearly, the skipper of the yacht is in deep 'sheet' and must be considered the major cause of the collision. Had he used common sense and complied with his legal obligation, he would have kept well away from the larger vessel in the first instance and the collision would not have occurred. The fact that his stupidity was aided and abetted by the confusing horn signals coming from the ship will not, I think, be enough to save his a--e. A consideration of no great importance, perhaps, but I would be interested to learn how long the motor vessel, Joy C., had been lying motionless in the water with engine trouble ? lest it be suggested the mate on watch (or dare I say it, Pilot) had not been fully aware of the need for added caution on the first day of Cowes Week. Before someone shoots me down, I do appreciate that ships of this size cannot manouevre or stop as quickly as they might wish (as was ever the case), but surely, regardless of legal right, there is an obligation on all persons having charge of a vessel under way to remain vigilant at all times. The point I raise is purely speculative and, besides, will have little bearing on what the learned Judge may find. Personally, come what may, I sense our friend the yacht skipper may be the subject of detachment from the R.N. Reserve. far sooner than previously expected.:(
.........Roger
I`ve looked at that film closely, and if you look at the position of his sails, i believe he could not see that tanker, not keeping a lookout at all. I wonder if they were breathalized once rescued apart from a change of underpants . I would give odd on drinkies were involved KT
Every time I brought a big VLCC tanker in the Solent to Fawley Refinary, we had Clear Channel, which means EVERYONE keeps out your way.
The Port Control, VTS, broadcasts to all vessels to keep clear, the Harbour Master`s launch ahead, strobe lights flashing and loud speakers shouting to the Yachties to get out of the way. we have sunk and wrecked many a yacht during Cowes week. They have the idea that they still have right of way against a giant tanker on Clear Channel..
Cheers
Brian
The rules have not changed Brian , neither has a small minority of yachtsmen who are total imbecilic idiots . What makes this worse is the guy was a professional sailor with the Royal Navy , on the few occasions that I have crossed to the I.o.W. , mainly for the sunshine and duty free cigarettes , I have seen the Solent yachtie and powerboat brigade attempt suicide on jet-skis , dinghys , racing yachts , and floating tax-havens . Although , I have never seen a Supertanker manoeuvre out of their way , most plod on without a care , and trust the debris does not foul the props . Anything longer than eight foot long should have a driver trained and licenced to drive the craft , not popular , but ignorance kills
Of course you're right Roger, Which of the two had more chance of maneuvering without causing more mayhem. Kieth, I have a cousin who works for Cowes harbour I have never met him, His mother my aunt has just celebrated her 90th birthday his old man clem has just celebrated 60yrs of marriage bliss. Funny old world m8 Terry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger DYER
[QUOTE=robpage;141024s . What makes this worse is the guy was a professional sailor with the Royal Navy ,s[/QUOTE]
Rob I once knew a RN Lt Commander Surgeon who had never set foot on a ship, all his service was concrete based, but boy could he spin a yarn to the ladies
Re. All small boat and amateur yachtsman, especially those making ocean passages in canoes etc. should be capable of knowing basic seamanship and should also sign a waiver form that they are responsible for their own actions and to repay all outstanding costs incurred in their rescue. They are sometimes a pain in the a..e costing many thousands of pounds and the danger to other seafarers. A merchant ship is liable to salvors claims and to the cost of towage etc. They should be no different, this makes me wonder at times about the crews on the likes of Greenpeace ships also. John Sabourn.
Rob he may have been caught with his pants down, Literally, All the nice girls love a sailor he certainly got caught between the sheets {Professional Sailor}:mymy:Quote:
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I am sure its not true of all RN Ruperts, but the ones I have met have given me the impression of being over confident, know everything and think they are it. ladies men. Not one has given me the desire or willingness to sail with them professionally or even unprofessionally. It appears to me, that you have to have rich parents, speak with a plum in your mouth, wear a white roll-neck sweater, have no nautical knowledge whatsoever and have a double barreled name, eg, Fartington-Fartington-Smythe before you are even considered for Dartmouth, oh and also, to own a sword with which to poke the plebs with.