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    Just something to browse over.See the quote from some people returning from Oz,"They would rather die in England than live in Australia" it was 1951 when I suppose it was tough in oz at that time.
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    Some good memories of the old days there Jim.
    I remember seeing the Canada like that,
    I wonder if the family being interviwed on the Georgic were on the same trip I did on her in August 1955, taking £10 Poms to OZ.it looks like a summers day.
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    good photos of liverpool and the docks .....brings back good memories of paying off and not so good memories signing on regards cappy

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    The Flying Scotsman being loaded aboard the freighter Saxonia 1969.I remember going aboard the passenger liner Saxonia in the Gladstone Dock before she had done her maiden voyage around about 1954 she was the first of the type Sylvania Carinthia,so what year did they get rid of the liner and replace it with a freighter ?
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    Jim
    There are some wonderful old Pics there mate,its amazing just how many old Pics have managed to be preserved over the Years of various places and events!
    Very nice to browse through them ,I always really enjoy old Nostalgia!
    Yes I don't think I would have liked to have moved to Aus in those days,as I heard many a true story of some who came here then and soon returned to their respective home base!
    Times must have been very tough.here and I dare say one had to be very hard to survive!
    One Gentleman that I knew back home was working on the Harbour Bridge when it was being constructed,and some of the stories he told boggled the mind!
    Poor fellow long time gone now!
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    Thanks for the photos Jim, they certainly bring back good memories.

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    The second RMS Saxonia was a 21,637 gross-ton passenger ship of the Cunard Line launched on 17 February 1954 by Lady Churchill.[3] She served with Cunard until 1962 when she was refitted and renamed RMS Carmania. She continued transatlantic crossings and various cruise routes until she was laid up in 1971. In August 1973 she was bought by the Soviet Union-based Black Sea Shipping Company and renamed SS Leonid Sobinov.

    History[edit]Among the last of the vessels built for transatlantic passenger traffic in the early 1950s, Saxonia was launched in 1954 and revived a name previously used for the Cunard liner RMS Saxonia, which had been launched in 1899 and scrapped in 1925. She was the first of three ships ordered to operate the service from the United Kingdom to Montreal, Canada.[3] She operated her maiden voyage from Liverpool to Montreal on 2 September 1954.[4]

    The ship was refitted in 1962 and given another Cunard name from earlier in the century, Carmania. As Carmania, the vessel continued service on the Rotterdam - Le Havre - Southampton - Canada route for several years, and cruised in the Caribbean and Mediterranean in the winters.

    During 1968, difficulties with US fire regulations resulted in cancellation of a winter cruise from Port Everglades. Cunard made some minor modifications to the ship before the next sailing in January 1969. On a later cruise the vessel ran aground on a sandbank off San Salvador Island in the Bahamas. Three months after returning to service the ship collided with the 3,900-ton Soviet tanker Frunze,[5] but damage to both vessels was apparently minor.

    She was laid up at Southampton in 1971. In August 1973 she was bought by the Soviet Union-based Black Sea Shipping Company and renamed after Leonid Sobinov. By 1995, she was laid up. In 1999, the liner was brought to Alang, India and scrapped after a long and storied career.

    In January 1979, as the ship lay in Sydney Harbour, an 18 year old crew member, Liliana Gasinskaya, slipped out of a porthole wearing only a red bikini, and swam across the harbour to claim political asylum. She rapidly achieved fame as the Red Bikini Girl, and, amongst other things, was the first nude centerfold in Australia's edition of Penthouse Magazine.[6]

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    1963 ex- Saxonia, 1968 transferred from Cunard and renamed Mahronda, 1978 sold to Singapore, renamed New Deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Brady View Post
    Just something to browse over.See the quote from some people returning from Oz,"They would rather die in England than live in Australia" it was 1951 when I suppose it was tough in oz at that time.
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    Fantastic photos Jim, yes it was tough here in Oz back in those days. My brother in law and his family came here in mid 50's ata time when many suburbs still had unmade roads. A lot has changed since then and we are now a modern up to date society, but those who came here at that time will often tell you of how hard it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Brady View Post
    Just something to browse over.See the quote from some people returning from Oz,"They would rather die in England than live in Australia" it was 1951 when I suppose it was tough in oz at that time.
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    Great photographs Jim. On the "New Australia" in 1951 with a full compliments of passengers I wondered how many would return. Having lived in both countries I can understand that many would find the cultural and environmental differences somewhat overwhelming. In the 1950s unions were commos and strangers were targets for no other reasons than they were easy prey for cowardly behaviour. Public servants were generally lazy and obnoxious. To survive dignity it was necessary to give back what you got and mostly that earned the respect that made staying an option. Cowards usually crawl away from danger when you stand up to them.
    My late parents arrived here in their twenties, never returned and even though they never lost their London and Yorkshire accents had many friends. My dad came home from the local pub a few times with a black eye or so but I think that was more being Dad than English!!
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    I think many of the migrants lived in camps during the 50's/60's I know a chap who lived in one such place he said your goal was to save up enough money for your fare home.He said when a family had managed to save the money to get home when they were leaving the camp all hands would turn out and clap them off they were so pleased for them.This guy is a good tradesman cabinet maker/joiner so if anybody could've made it he should have done.Yes an ambitious guy came back here and built himself a little empire owned lots of property a nice boat big enough to sail over to Ireland.
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