Climate Change

[Keith at Tregenna]

Apparently, Aussie Businessman Andrew Forrest Makes $70 Million Bushfire Donation.


https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-b...J5sIgPrkw3J7_E

Also, via Maritime Union of Australia - MUA

In extraordinary circumstances the Australian seafarers on board both of the Far Senator and the Far Saracen have been working tirelessly over the past few weeks assisting the 4000+ people whom were trapped by fires at Mallacoota Beach.
The Crew provided the desperate people, with fuel, water, food and shelter. Accommodating critical emergency service personnel and ensuring that the severely injured and sick were taken care of.

All of the crew on board of these vessels should be congratulated on their efforts.

In times of crisis the evidence for an Australian shipping fleet has never been more apparent. Thank you all.

MUA Here to Stay!

[happy daze john in oz]

A bit out of wack there John, The El Nino effect occurs during the warming of the Pacific Ocean, the warming of the Indian Ocean is a fairly new phenomenon, which is causing a lot of problems.
Des

Correct Des, sorry about that. But the Indian ocean warming has, according to this guy, done so before on some form of regular pattern.
Forgot to say also about the follow up with La Nina.
When moisture is taken up into the atmosphere it gets to the point where it can no longer hold it. So down comes the rain, but it does not mean we will get it all here, could well fall somewhere else.

[Keith at Tregenna]

Discovered at the very end of the 20th century, the Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) if to blame for what has occurred, would possibly show that the powers that be had been informed and took no action.

One weather report alone last year made mention:

Severe Weather Europe

Unusually strong positive Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) event develops.

Another report, more recent: December - suggested:

The Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) has returned to neutral in what is a headline event, signalling the potential arrival of Australia’s delayed annual monsoon and some desperately awaited relief for the bush fire-ravaged country.

The Australian Bureau of Meteorology announced mid-morning today (Tuesday) that an aggressive positive phase of the IOD may have collapsed and that the Indian Ocean returned to neutral after one of the strongest positive IOD events to impact Australia in recent history.

The IOD is expected to remain neutral in the coming months, meaning that it will have little influence on the Australian and global climate. Closer home, the decay of the IOD event should help taper off the easterly flows across the South Indian peninsula and associated hit-or-miss thunderstorms across the geography.

My rellies in Oz are near praying for rain ASAP.

K.

[happy daze john in oz]

I see that BMW have declared they will continue building Diesel and Petrol cars for the next 25 or so years. No interest in electric cars as a main line vehicle.

We have a protest march here in Melbourne tonight, mainly students who give the impression they are either just out for trouble or just out of touch.
Among their demands, payment for volunteer fire fighters.
They fail to understand that most of these people live in small communities, some as small as 100 people, and a such do what they do for the benefit of that community, not for profit.
Then they want Oz to stop selling coal to China and India.
Yes we could, but that would see thousands out of work, a nation crippled by lack of income and at the end of the day those countries would buy from other nations, some of which will have coal with a much higher Sulphur content than that from Oz.
It was suggested by one commentator that maybe they should work as volunteers with Salvos or Red Cross, reply, 'we are not trained for that'??????

But are we here in Oz a bit out of touch with what other nations are doing regarding the so called 'Climate Change"?

In Indonesia a country that produces 80%b of power from coal the other 20% from oil, gas, hydro and thermal.
No wind or solar there and looking at the English papers there and the English TV programs there is no mention of CC.

Those that protest make outrageous claims as to what they think should be done, but when asked how they would manage other things such as the production of steel which requires coal for the Bessamer converter?
They have no answers, just wild commenst.

[Ivan Cloherty]

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No wind or solar there and looking at the English papers there and the English TV programs there is no mention of CC.

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John, we have the largest windfarm in the world, (including America) off the Hornsea Coast, and that is just one, we have more wind farms in total in the UK than any other European country or America

[Captain Kong]

We cab see one of the worlds biggest wind farms out at sea from here in Fleetwood just off Morecambe Bay.

[John Arton]

Last year in the u.k. there was more electricity produced from renewable sources such as wind power etc. Than that produced by gas/oil/coal/nuclear sourced .
Rgds
J.A.

[vic mcclymont]

John, the figures produced by the wind farms association is not correct.
Before Christmas they claimed that over 50% of the electricity demanded by the grid was produced by them.
On checking the grid the maximum produced by the farms was 13gw and not the 16gw that they claimed.
John, not getting at you, pointing out how the news is manipulated.
You can check the UK grid by googling ukgrid Templar.
Vic

[Des Taff Jenkins]

We know of a person who lives in Mole Creek, Tas. He contacted the local council to ask what they intended to do about the tall dry grass on the roadside there.
They said they couldn't cut it down as there was the prospect of sparks from the ride on mower could start a fire.
Talk about catch 22. Meanwhile the tall grass remains....also a very real fire hazard.
In Fingal there is an old coal mine they are trying to stop the fire getting to. Can you imagine if it got to coal....could burn for years.
Another friend in Wodonga near Albany has already packed and is ready to go if need be. Some of her children on nearby farms have already been evacuated.
As my friend in Adelaide (builder) said they shouldn't be building "city" homes in the bush.
After cyclone Tracey when Darwin was destroyed for a long time they tightened building codes but it appears that now they have eased off so homes are not being built to the possible conditions up there.

Hi Victoria.
Whatever happened to the Scythe or sickle.
Cheers Des

[Keith at Tregenna]

A present report from the UK;

Australia wildfires: Scott Morrison continues to deny climate threat despite ‘apocalyptic’ blazes

PM also criticised for 'lax' handling of crisis

There's a political storm brewing in Australia, as well.

In its epicentre is conservative prime minister Scott Morrison, who has been criticised not just for his initial lax handling of the crisis – he was on holiday in Hawaii as his nation burned – but, more importantly, for his broader resistance to political measures aimed at mitigating climate change.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...box=1578558820